Should i upgrade to growl 1.3
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I'm having a hard time figuring out how forking a project placed under the BSD license by its developers can be "cheat"ing those same developers. As I said, you can compile your own copy without forking and without paying. But forking with the sole intention of making easier for others to avoid paying is poor form, if permitted by the license. I contributed based on it being an open source license; if some group decides to change that so they can make money off it, forking and keeping it free is not "cheating them" - it's keeping them from cheating me and every other dev who has helped them.
It's no more cheating the developers than I'm cheating the government by taking every tax deduction available to me. Really disliked Growl when I had it installed. I wonder why people like it It's bad enough that I keep my GMail open continuously I've thought about shutting that down for most of the day too.
The key to making Growl good is to prune what it notifies for. What do you actually care about? Me, I mostly use it as an iTunes track info display, just a little note in the bottom corner of my screen that fades in and out quietly, and reappears when I hit a hotkey. I've also used it to display error messages when debugging an Applescript. I don't have it notify me with info about every email.
I don't have it tell me when someone IMs me. If an app starts spamming me with notifications about something I think is unimportant, I go into Growl's prefs and turn that app off. MrFoof on Nov 6, root parent next [—]. I agree entirely. I use Growl for exactly one thing: To notify me of deliveries via the Delivery Status widget.
Because if I don't act on picking them up quickly, I might have to wait 1 to 2 days to get my package from the office. Everything else? Off, because there's no material benefit for me being notified. Growl lets me scan them to see if I need to switch workspaces to respond, and if I don't, then I don't break flow.
Nothing much else bugs me in Growl on any regular basis. Seriously, how is this not part of the OS yet? Half a dozen different ways to switch between apps, but no built in notification system to tell that I should. MrEnigma on Nov 6, prev next [—].
I've been using the paid version for the last couple of weeks, and it works equally as well as the old version. However they added a rollup feature, so if you're away it would track them all, but you couldn't remove it. The release a few days allowed you to be able to disable it, which works. However there are still some small bugs like a notification that got stuck and you couldn't remove. It's really about the same as the old version.
The one cool thing they added was the ability to forward growl messages easily over bonjour auto detection. So if you have two computers, when one is idle, it can forward it's messages to another active computer. I've never wanted growl on my system, and yet somehow it keeps ending up on there without my seeming to have any say in the matter.
At least this has given me the reason to uninstall it yet again. I already have enough distractions as it is. GameGamer43 on Nov 6, prev next [—]. I like may others was using the free version of growl prior to 1. When 1. Now don't get me wrong, I could have just as easily compiled it on my machine and continued to use it, but that would defeat the purpose of continuing to support something I use daily. With that said, I will say that in 1. However this has been resolved in 1.
Typically I've found that they ask first, however even that is annoying. I don't want growl support, and I haven't wanted growl support in a very long time. I've yet to see a use case for it that didn't seem bent on interrupting the user with a distraction, and preventing them from getting things done.
Screw that, I'll stick with programs bouncing subtly in the dock, where I can ignore them. Not to mention, the last time I used growl it or the programs who used it suffered from a few bugs which would cause it to occasionally barf notifications all over my screen without warning.
How rude! Major props to the Growl team for subsidizing their work while also keeping it free. Maybe some day people will stop being stupid and understand that Apple is here to make money. If you want reliable software, use free as in "free speech" software. Or at least OpenSource sofware, you'll always be able to use the latest release! To all of the people in this thread complaining about growl: You realize that you can configure what it alerts you about, yes?
I think the bigger problem for people with Growl is many apps installed it without telling you. This tends to put a bad taste in your mouth. Sorry, this should be a "feature" of the operating system I'm using, not an additional add-on piece of software that I have to purchase. I'm so happy that OS X doesn't do notifications. Dock badges are already distracting enough I always like it when someone gives a talk, attaches his windows laptop to the beamer, and is then constantly distracted by the yellow notifications in the bottom right corner "You are now connected to the internet", "Your virus definitions are out of date", "New hardware detected" Microsoft Windows did it right, all notifications are standardized and put into the icon tray.
If I want to disable notifications I open the tray settings and disable them there. MacOS never standardized anything, and so every MacOS app creates a new non-standard tray icon, with its own notification system, and some of them now use Growl and some of them don't. It's a mess that even Microsoft managed to standardize 10 years ago.
Microsoft did it exactly right if you assume popup notifications are necessary. I firmly believe that popup notifications are unnecessary and distracting, and that's why I prefer the "notification system" of OS X red badges in the dock.
These are a standard. Growl and menu bar status icons etc are just useless cruft introduced by developers who don't want to adhere to the standard. I could care less if my OS notifies me that it discovered a new input device, or that someone sent me an email labelled "urgent", or whatever. Of course, OS X is not as clean and notification-free as I'd like it to be: It annoys me every other week or so with some useless software update, and every 10 days it complains that I didn't plug in the backup drive for some time.
Now, it might be possible to configure and disable all these notifications, but I just don't want to bother. I want my computer to act on my command, and in my eyes there is almost no excuse for putting up an unexpected notification or alert or dialog for anything. Actually, it should be a feature of the graphical or non graphical environment you are in, not the underlying OS. The OS should not be concerned with how or what things appear on a screen.
You're confusing OS with the kernel. The graphical environment is part of the OS. I find the term Operating System mostly outdated these days when all common OSes ship with wide array of applications, some which are essential for the system to function, and others less so. You are confusing OS with the userland. Graphical environment is not necessarily a part of the OS.
If you run Linux you can load a number of different graphical environments. If I use Linux I can load a number of different filesystems. Are these not part of the OS? While the OS doesn't necessarily have to distribute a graphical environment, it can and it is often a feature of the OS, unlike what rbanffy said. I've edited my post above. Actually, most filesystems are part of the kernel. There is the FUSE mechanism, on which you can attach user-space file systems.
Filesystem drivers attached in such way are usually unless you are doing something wrong portable across OSs that share similar mechanisms and, as the name implies, are withing the user space. Growl is stable and should work for as long as intel based programs work. Anyone who wants to run Growl is free to do so in an unsupported fashion. Growl Growl is a notification system for OS X. Removing Growl If you have Growl and you want to remove it from your system, there are two ways: Growl 2.
Double click on Growl.
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